[portaouflop]

Often for me not the hardware was the bottleneck but the software - I had some old phones which became unusable because half of the essential software would not work anymore on the outdated android versions - same with iPhone, it gets updates for some years but if I can’t use e.g my banking app the phone is useless - these ungodly apps are half the reason I am forced to use this machine in the first place…

[guerrilla]

Then you definitely want a Fairphone 5. It currently comes with Android 14 (originally 13) and will be updated until at least 2031.

[portaouflop]

Hm given that the Fairphone is about 4 times as expensive as any phone I ever owned I am not sure if I want to make that commitment.

Also 2031 is just 7 years away - my current refurbished iPhone that I got for 100 bucks is supported until 2028.

[AdrianB1]

This is great, but not guaranteed. I consider it a best effort to do the right thing.

[guerrilla]

It's literally guaranteed. What do you mean?

[AdrianB1]

There is no guarantee the company will be around to do it. It is usually a better chance with larger companies, but there is no guarantee anywhere.

[guerrilla]

They don't need to be around. It's a completely unlocked phone. Install anything you want on it.