[glenstein]

I've had a conversation almost exactly like this too, about an obscure dos based 3d fighting game. And some pessimistic instinct tells me I should worry, like this capability will be optimized away in future versions. It's like that precise pang of satisfaction is tied to a jaded feeling that I can't trust it to last if it ultimately depends on infrastructure and incentives that will lead openai toward eating the world like Google did.

Getting ahead of myself to be sure, Google absolutely deserves to be stomped, so for now I guess we just ride out this wave.

Edit: I see elsewhere that others are converging on this idea and expressing it more clearly, namely that we may be in a honeymoon period.

[maest]

> And some pessimistic instinct tells me I should worry, like this capability will be optimized away in future versions.

A big difference here is that oprn source models are available, effective and checkpointed at this point in time!

Worst case scenario, we stop getting new open source models and are forced to query new, suboptimal models only for recent information.

[jazzypants]

Let me guess: One Must Fall 2097 or FX Fighter?

[glenstein]

I loved One Must Fall, but it's not that and it was a lot more similar to FX fighter, but older and more grainy. I don't think I ever actually found out what it was.

[vkazanov]

One must fall was AMAZING! It had so much character and satisfying feedback in it!

(Or this is how I remember it)

[d3Xt3r]

No, it was beyond amazing. Both the pilots and robots had a distinct character and a history behind them, and some combinations just seemed a better git than others. Like I can't imagine the kickboxer Milano piloting anything else besides a Jaguar or maybe a Shadow. I also liked how after every match, you got a news report with highlights of your match, with "screenshots" showing key moments - not sure how they managed to do that in an old DOS game - nothing short of genius IMO. I can't think of any other game which has this feature.

The manual included with the game was also a very interesting and fun read - full of humor and quips about the game devs - even including a humorous piece on the main developer's baby daughter. Reading the manual made the game and the game devs feel so much more alive. I haven't played OMF in decades, yet I still remember most of their names - Rob Elam, Ryan Elam, the genius music composer Kenny Chou[1] and not to forget the baby, Bethany Kay Elam. Till date I wonder what she's is up to, and whether she's gotten over her habit of slobbering over the keyboard...

Personally, for me, OMF2097 was the definitive fighting game of all time. It's a pity that almost no one ever thinks of it, it's always either Tekken, Street Fighter, or MK. All great games, mind you, but they're nothing like OMF.

[1] Kenny Chou uploaded a remake of the OMF theme song a while ago, in case you weren't aware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvlVaQl7kEk