[ThinkBeat]

I presume you are aware that Taiwan is in fact occupied by China now?

The Chinese who ran from the communist revolution, invaded Taiwan, setup their own military dictatorship, and they were extremely brutal to the natives Taiwanese. (Sadly this has been their lot through several occupations by different entities.)

During more recently history they have been polishing more democratic values and life for the natives has improved.

But for Taiwan to be free, in any proper sense, the Chinese occupiers must leave.

[ebruchez]

Saying "Taiwan is in fact occupied by China" is at best a gross misrepresentation. It's like saying "North America is in fact occupied by Europe now [...] for North America to be free, in any proper sense, the European occupiers must leave." Well, maybe, from a certain point of view? But kind of pointless in terms of a realistic path forward.

We are not talking about remaking history here. We are talking about the present and the future of Taiwan. Its population and culture are what they are now.

Chiang Kai-shek's move to Taiwan and subsequent rule was indeed at times brutal, and the immigration massive in relative terms. But that move took place in the 1950s, and since that time amends have been made. You will see monuments and remembrance days related to those events. Taiwan is now a thriving (if at times feisty) democracy where minorities are protected.

During my last trip to Taiwan, I revisited the Chiang Kai-shek Memorial Hall.[1] What struck me is the museum underneath. Here, for all to contemplate, is a documentation of Chiang Kai-shek's life and rule. The striking part is that the errors and brutality of his rule are also well-documented and preserved, officially accessible to all. Try to find anything like this kind of recognition of past mistakes in mainland China (hint: you won't find it).

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiang_Kai-shek_Memorial_Hall

[ThinkBeat]

Ok so China invaded Taiwan in 1949.

Per your argument this is so far in the past that the invasion and occupation doesnt matter anymore To the winner goes the spols right. The rights of the natives are well past their sell buy date.

How many years do you count from an occupation begins until it does not matter anymore how or what the nation was has no meaning anymore?

20 years? 40 years?

Do you care to then apply your time of expiration of a nation and its peoples to other conflicts we have had have had in the world?

Or is Taiwan a special case?