[carlinm]

The hardest part for me in using nvim for java is the debugger tooling. I primarily use IntelliJ for any JVM related languages, and the debugger has always been invaluable. The debugging has always felt more polished and easy to configure in JetBrains IDEs. The nvim-dap and nvim-dap-ui had a bit too much friction to configure for it to my liking, and inevitably I reverted to IntelliJ. However, I love the keyboard-driven flow I can achieve in nvim where JetBrains IDEs fall short.

[giancarlostoro]

What kills me with JetBrains is they work on a barely functional (according to vim coders I talk to) simulation plugin, instead of just investing resources into integrating Neovim as a backend via plugin. You can literally have all the niceness of JetBrains IDEs with the editing power of Neovim. That alone would flip so many die hard Vim users.

[TiredOfLife]

> That alone would flip so many die hard Vim users.

It wouldn't. Diehard Vim and Emacs users might hate each other, but they hate IDEs more.

[giancarlostoro]

I had a few people who wanted the better IDE, but they hated the keybinding hell they were going through. Having a true integration would have flipped them fully.

[The_Colonel]

The problem there is that you'd be integrating two massive codebases, each with different expectations, assumptions etc. No matter how hard you try, they'd clash in places and some things would not work, leaving one side or another unhappy even with this massive effort. IdeaVim makes it work by having a massively simplified vim-like editor, specifically written for IntelliJ.