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by pndmnm 5081 days ago
That's absolutely correct -- trichotomy for arbitrary cardinals (any two cardinals are cardinal-size-comparable) requires AC, but SB doesn't require AC. Trichotomy for the cardinal numbers of well-ordered sets (e.g. ordinals) doesn't require AC.

It's a little irrelevant to this thread... but as long as I'm quoting non-proofs that require lots of extra machinery, I'll give my favorite appeal-to-intuition equivalent of choice: the product of non-empty sets is non-empty (any point in the product of a collection of non-empty sets is a choice function on those sets).

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AC is equivalent to a lot of things. There's a collection of them on the Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiom_of_choice#Equivalents

Something I find pretty interesting is that some of these equivalences break down in weak systems.

http://www.math.uchicago.edu/~antonio/RM11/RM%20talks/mummer...

Yup, I did a few projects on equivalents of AC back in the day. That's just my favorite "appeal to intuition" one (my favorite "appeal to intuition" against AC is: the identity function is the sum of two periodic functions (though this is a consequence and not equivalent)).

Equivalence breakdown in alternate systems is a wonderful topic. I've been trying for a couple years now to figure out how to get back into set theory now that I'm out of academia. Maybe later this summer...