[namaria]

It is cynical but it is also a generalization better supported by the evidence than "we're craftsmen" or "we're engineers".

If you can say "I'm a craftsman" or "I'm an engineer" all the power to you. Sadly I don't think we can say that in the collective form.

[nyarlathotep_]

> If you can say "I'm a craftsman" or "I'm an engineer" all the power to you. Sadly I don't think we can say that in the collective form.

My cynicism of the software "profession" is entirely a function of experience, and these titles are the (very rare) exception.

The norm is low-quality, low complexity disposable code.

[computerdork]

Hmm, thinking back, think most companies I worked (from the small to the very large tech companies) had on average pretty good code and automated tests, pretty good processes, pretty good cultures and pretty good architectures. Some were very weak with one aspect, but made up for it others. But maybe I got lucky?