[karmakurtisaani]

For me personally it has been very disheartening to see how many people simply don't care about what goes on slightly outside of their immediate vicinity.

The one simple easiest thing you can do to fight environmental disasters is to stop eating meats. Or at least reduce the consumption of the most harmful ones. Try taking up that conversation with people whose opinion on the matter you don't know. Most of the time it's not going to be pleasant, satisfying or leading to much progress.

People like to think about big picture decisions with their taste buds and emotions.

[mmooss]

> it has been very disheartening to see how many people simply don't care about what goes on slightly outside of their immediate vicinity.

They are disheartened by you spreading this myth. Plenty of people have and do and will do otherwise.

[karmakurtisaani]

Yeah, but it's not enough. Who's the next US president? Why is the Amazon rainforest being burned down? How many % support does AfD have? I know good people are out there, but it only takes so many to ruin it for the rest of us.

[mmooss]

Bad behavior and problems have always been there - in history, much worse than now. The difference now is the quitters.

[ornornor]

We have never faced an existential threat that is planet scale from fucking up the climate. Never. This might be our great filter.

[mmooss]

Nuclear war was and is a bigger threat. Climate change has been a threat for decades, before quitting became a pastime of the Americans and the West.

Wars and other localized dangers are much greater threats for people involved; WWII was a much greater threat to the West. Black people in the US have faced greater threats for most of American history.

[ornornor]

I’d argue climate change was never so serious. It’s getting worse and worse and is happening right now. It’s possible we’re passing a tipping point and that it will accelerate while feeding on itself.

Nuclear war is a hypothetical in comparison (although it would also be pretty bad but it’s not currently happening).

Black people in the US aren’t the only persecuted population in the world, and it’s targeted (by definition); It’s not universal.

Climate change or nuclear war would wipe out humans as a species (and most other living things) indiscriminately, regardless of race.