[joseneca]

QuickJS is great for cases where you are more limited by startup and executable size than anything else but it tends to perform quite terribly (https://bellard.org/quickjs/bench.html) compared to V8 and anything else with JIT compilation.

More code does not inherently mean worse performance.

[sylware]

But its SDK is not the c++ abominations like v8, and that alone is enough to choose quickjs or similar, since we all know here, that c++ (and similar, namely rust/java/etc) is a definitive nono (when it is not forced down our throat as a user, don't forget to thanks the guys doing that, usually well hidden behind internet...).

For performance, don't use javascript anyway...

That said, a much less worse middleground would be to have performance critical block written in assembly (RISC-V Now!) orchestrated by javascript.

[surajrmal]

I'm not sure I understand the point of mentioning the language. If it was written in a language like c but still "shoved down your throat" would you still have qualms with it? Do you just like things written by corporate entities and those languages tend to be popular as they scale to larger teams well? Or do you dislike software that is too large to understand and optimized for the needs of larger teams? Because it doesn't matter if it's software or some grouping of distinct software - at some point there will be a point at which it becomes challenging to understand the full set of software.

If I were to create an analogy, it feels like you're complaining about civil engineers who design skyscrapers to be built out of steel and concrete instead of wood and brick like we use for houses. Sure the former is not really maintainable by a single person but it's also built for higher capacity occupancy and teams of folks to maintain.

[sylware]

The "need of larger teams" does not justify to delegate the core of the technical interfaces to a grotesquely and absurdely complex and gigantic computer language with its compiler (probably very few real life ones).

This is accute lack of perspective, border-line fraud.

[surajrmal]

Not all problems are technical. Some are social. Velocity of a large team should absolutely be taken into account when designing software. Does the concept of an assembly line also upset you? Not every thing can be done by a single craftsperson working in isolation or in a small group.

I'm not suggesting where we ended up is ideal, but it has utility. I hope for a language reset akin to kotlin for the c++ community at some point to help resolve the complexity we've managed accumulate over decades. There is a decent amount of effort from various parts of the ecosystem to accomplish this.

[ramon156]

I could be reading your comment wrong, but what do you mean with "c++ is a definitive nono"? Also how is a complicated repository enough (reason) to choose quickjs?

[sylware]

quickjs or similar. Namely, small depending on a reasonable SDK (which does include the computer language).