[uoaei]

Like useful in an intentional way: purpose-built and achieves success via accurate, parsimonious models. The telos here being the stated goal of a structurally sound agent that can emulate a human being, as opposed to the accidental, max-entropy implementations we have today.

[bobxmax]

Sounds like an arbitrary telos, especially in a world where one of the most useful inventions in human existence has been turning dead dinosaurs into flying metal containers to transport ourselves great distances in.

[uoaei]

Every goal is equally arbitrary, I'm speaking to the assumed ideology of the AI fanatics.

[calf]

Is a guide dog teleologically useful?

[jrflowers]

Not if you’re taste testing ceviche

[croemer]

I see, so humans are also not usefully intelligent in an intentional way, because they also follow the 2nd law of thermodynamics and maximize entropy and aren't deterministic?

[throw646577]

Pure, refined “but humans also”.

[croemer]

What do you mean by "Pure, refined"?

You're right that "but humans also" is better than my "and humans also"