[danans]

> If that's a problem, why does the progressive point of view typically argue in favor of giving more power over our lives to the ruling class?

You've literally reversed the meaning of the term "progressive" by replacing it with the meaning of the term "oligarchic".

Progressives argue for less invasion by government in our personal lives, and less unequal distribution of wealth and power. They are specifically opposed to power being delivered to a ruling class.

> The problem isn't the money. The problem is the power

These are nearly inseparable in current (and frankly most past) societies. Pretending that they are not is a way of avoiding practical solutions to the problem of the distribution of power.

[Spivak]

I really get the feeling that people do not understand that progressive is almost a synonym for Libleft.

Those damn authoritarians, stripping the power from the oligarchs by massively taxing the rich and defunding the police. The bastards.

[palmfacehn]

Progressive is more precise than that. There are specific policies you can examine from the Progressive Era.

Ultimately it was the 'oligarchs' who argued in favor of the progressive agenda. Wall Street created the 3rd central bank, the US Federal Reserve. The AMA closed all of the mutual aid societies and their hospitals. Railroad barons lobbied for subsidies and price controls to eliminate their competitors. Woodrow Wilson declared war on Germany, "The world must be made safe for democracy"

Of course no would be authoritarian claims more power without claiming that they are doing it for the greater good or to attack the rich classes. The Progressive Era was smorgasbord of special interest handouts and grants to cartels. All of this was lobbied for by oligarchs.

[ggregoryarms]

Yeah, that commenter wildly misunderstands what "progressive" means. Like full on got the definition of the word backwards.

Is this common? People think "progressive" means "complete government control"?

Progressives support regulations to prevent both public and private entities from becoming too powerful. It's not like they want to give the government authoritarian control lol.