[MichaelZuo]

Talented people can improve in multiple directions at the same time… unless you don’t believe this?

Plus any 29 year old who can actually land a genuine 500k-600k USD compensation job at a big company is a literal genius, at the very least.

[lovich]

Do you honestly believe that an individual who

>… been working hard 15 hours 7 days a week in a niche, 50 weeks a year, from age 15 to age 29…

Developed the same level of social skills as the average individual who lived a more normal schedule?

I have to ask before you even answer that. Do you believe that social skills are something to be practiced and built upon, are they some waste of time they only hormones bother with, or some other option I haven’t considered?

[MichaelZuo]

They can develop, in many aspects, far superior to an average individual given the same amount of time.

And develop to a comparable level given a much shorter period of time.

That’s pretty much by definition for literal geniuses.

[lovich]

I think you might be delusional if you think that the people who can do all of this at the same time and don’t come out maladjusted to society is anything beyond a fraction of a fraction of a percent of outliers

[MichaelZuo]

Are you confused about what geniuses are? Or did you not finish reading the comment?

Because this reply doesn’t make sense in relation to the previous comment.

They are very much outliers, so they are by definition a very small fraction of society.

[lovich]

This is just magical thinking on your end. I’ve met some of these “literal geniuses” making 500k at faangs and most of them are completely socially maladapted once you’ve taken them out of the pipeline they’ve lived in since high school to getting their first job mid or late 20s after their masters or PhD.

Secondly you started off this chain with talking about how someone working hard for 15 hours a day for decades is going to be more valuable and they’ll just be able to pick up every skill a human could have or need because they’re “geniuses”.

If they’re really geniuses why do they need to grind?

If you’re implying that they are only part of the set of geniuses that grind that long and there is another set of geniuses that didn’t, then how does that track with geniuses being a very small fraction of society?

[MichaelZuo]

I never said they are guaranteed to be this or that?

Clearly some fraction do have critically bad social skills which do materially affect their prospects to a significant degree.

But the majority of them do exceed that very low bar, so it’s simply not that critical of a hinderance most of the time.

You appear to be reading absolute implications into my comments, and/or inserting your own conjectures which aren’t there on a plain reading.