[2lazy2pwdmgr]

The real story is animal ag creates the conditions for selection for more virulent pandemic viruses (and antibiotic resistant bacteria through overuse of the chemically-identical antibiotics given to humans) and yet we don't take the actions necessary to prevent them.

[fasa99]

Well we do take actions i.e. https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2024/07/10/... Literally killing millions of livestock to isolate the spread. Not to say there aren't better ways. Life finds a way. It's hard.

[2lazy2pwdmgr]

That's ineffective action to enable the industry to continue rather than ending it and doing something less dangerous that won't kill millions. Not all motion is progress :rocking horse photo here: - One of Meta's "motivational" posters

[AlexandrB]

While you're right, I suspect having the price of meat increase 2-5x will mean that whoever pushes for the elimination of factory farming won't be in power for long enough to "make it stick".

[alfiedotwtf]

Plus, people won’t let authorities know their livestock is infected until it spreads further

[Terr_]

"If my neighbor is affected too, then they won't be able to undercut me in price later..."

Even if that scenario is very rare, it's interesting to think of how dramatically these discussions would change if we had perfect forensic knowledge for tracing the complex blame/liability.

[Aloisius]

Animal agriculture isn't really required. Just humans coming into contact with animals or droppings will do. See: HIV, SARS, Zika, MARV, etc.

Clearly the solution is to exterminate all other species.

[lalalali]

On progress. 96% achieved for the first opponent group : https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

Round 2 versus insects or viruses?

[fransje26]

We are also on target with our fight against them pesky insects.

https://www.dw.com/en/munich-study-confirms-severe-decline-i...

[giarc]

We are trying our best.

[tiahura]

The real story is that bird flu has already completely spread across the country and there’s _1_ serious case.

[sundaeofshock]

At one point in 2019, there was just 1 serious case of Covid 19.

[ifyoubuildit]

Was that before or after spreading across the whole country?

[tiahura]

At that point, it hadn’t spread and there were already tons of serious cases.

[chrisco255]

If it's a virus, then antibiotics have no effect.

[lokar]

I don’t think the comment confused them. Two different and serious problems caused by the same conditions and practices.

[fnordpiglet]

In fact you could argue antibiotics allows much denser farms and proportionately more viral transmission and therefore more mutation.