[pino999]

Obese people don't have more muscle, especially if you look into the more extreme cases. Muscle atrophy seems to happen due to low insuline sensitivity.

And relative they are weaker in the sense that the ratio between strength and body mass is smaller than that of normal people.

And then we have the powerlifting community.

[idiotsecant]

Have you never seen a fat guys calves?

[loeg]

So: extreme cases (both obesity and powerlifting) are not relevant when we're talking about population-wide averages. And relative weakness is also irrelevant (the original claim was solely about muscle mass -- if you want to talk about that being a bad metric, you're responding to the wrong comment).

You make one specific relevant claim: "obese people don't have more muscle." (Which belies everything I've read on the subject.) So, uh, why do you think that?

[danielbln]

40%[0] of the US population is considered obese. Pretty relevant to population wide averages.

[0] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db508.htm

[loeg]

This is not responsive to my comment.

[oefnak]

It is. Read your own comment again.