[shadowerm]

Not to mention, I love working out.

If anything, I need more reasons to leave the house. Not more reasons to stay inside and be on the computer even more.

I do agree that GLP-1s can't be a free lunch. It can't be that powerful for free. Even beyond that, we might not know what we are doing with them.

It use to be standard for testosterone replacement to get a shot from a doctor every two weeks. This is an unbelievably stupid way to take testosterone. Blasting a super physiologic level of testosterone and then crashing over a two week period would be a good way to amplify side effects if that were the goal but we didn't know what we were doing then.

It is very unlikely we would have just randomly stumbled on the best way to take GLP-1s out of the gate.

[cyberax]

> I do agree that GLP-1s can't be a free lunch. It can't be that powerful for free.

Why? Life is not a morality play.

[brodouevencode]

It wasn't a question of morality - we don't know what the long term side effects are.

Look if it helps a morbidly obese person drop enough weight so that they can get a handle on their A1C, blood pressure, etc. then it's probably (from what we know now) worth the risk. For the slightly overweight person who takes it, and I know a few from the gym, we don't know what that looks like yet.

It will take time to find out if there are long term detrimental effects.

[cyberax]

> It wasn't a question of morality - we don't know what the long term side effects are.

But we actually do. And they seem to be all positive so far.

> It will take time to find out if there are long term detrimental effects.

It's been 20 years already from the development of the earliest GLP-1 agonists.