[user3939382]

What’s funny is nothing could be worse for our country than post war US foreign policy. Check out the wikipedia article on US foreign interventions. We don’t need China to fuck us up by subtly sending messages, we have our entire political establishment overtly doing it every day in DC.

[shlant]

"U.S. bad so just ignore outside influence". Can you imagine a world where both should be taken seriously? Or are you just here to minimize?

[user3939382]

Our official policy is to bankrupt our country by medaling in the affairs of everyone else, how could their “influence” possibly be any worse?

[ethbr1]

You don't see how subordinating a country to another's goals could be worse than policy you disagree with?

[user3939382]

I don’t see how some nebulous speculation about the influence of ideas that could then potentially lead to a bad outcome is a relevant conversation when we’re actively perpetually destroying ourselves from within on a daily basis no.

[shlant]

so in answer to my question - no you can't even imagine both could be bad. Your talking points sound very tankie so I guess nuance isn't to be expected.