[russellbeattie]

I have to disagree. I understand it's very expensive, but it's still a consumer product available to anyone with a credit card.

The comparison is between something you can buy off the shelf like a powerful Mac, vs something powered by a Grace Hopper CPU from Nvidia, which would require both lots of money and a business relationship.

Honestly, people pay $4k for nice TVs, refrigerators and even couches, and those are not professional tools by any stretch. If LLMs needed a $50k Mac Pro with maxed out everything, that might be different. But anything that's a laptop is definitely regular consumer hardware.

[PhunkyPhil]

There's definitely been plenty sources of hardware capable of running LLMs out there for a while, Mac or not. A couple 4090s or P40s will run 3.1 70b. Or, since price isn't a limit, there are other easier & more powerful options like a [tinybox](https://tinygrad.org/#tinybox:~:text=won%27t%20be%20consider...).