[njtransit]

Or you should provide some evidence? What’s your source, “trust me bro?” It’s already a well established fact that the AMA lobbied congress to impose residency quotas, a position they continue to support. Therefore, the only logical conclusion is that the (likely vast) majority of doctors support this.

[nradov]

The AMA no longer supports that position. They have been lobbying Congress to fund more residency slots for several years.

https://savegme.org/

And the AMA isn't the only organization representing physicians. Many of them aren't even members. It's not like a union or something.

Even today there is no legal quota limit on residencies. There's only a cap on slots funded by the federal government through Medicaid. Other organizations are free to fund as many slots as they want. If you have the means you could go to your local non-profit teaching hospital and donate money to expand their program.

[undersuit]

You made the first unsubstantiated claim first. You've since moved onto this second less absolute statement about the AMA and I see you again pushing another unsubstantiated claim.

[njtransit]

My claims were entirely substantiated.

Original claim: doctor salaries are part of the problem.

Substantiation: Doctors in the U.S. earn way more than doctors elsewhere. It logically follows that higher salaries lead to higher healthcare costs. For reference, the average doctor in the U.S. earns over $360K. In Germany, that number is around 85K euros.

Then you claimed that some doctors think this is a problem.

I responded by saying that the AMA lobbied to artificially restrict the supply of doctors. This is a well known fact. It’s literally in the introduction (with sources) on their Wikipedia page: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Medical_Association

> the AMA has frequently lobbied to restrict the supply of physicians, contributing to a doctor shortage in the United States.[10][11][12][13] The organization has also lobbied against allowing physician assistants and other health care providers to perform basic forms of health care. The organization has historically lobbied against various forms of government-run health insurance.[8]

So all that is left unsubstantiated is your claim that “a bunch of doctors do recognize the issue.” Ok, which ones? How widespread is this belief? Why is the AMA acting against these beliefs?

[undersuit]

Sorry, you've lost any credibility in my eyes with this constant goal post moving; I'm not reading all that.