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by gwbas1c 550 days ago
Some scientists in the Manhattan Project worried that the first nuclear test could trigger a chain reaction that would annihilate the earth.

These fears were unfounded.

(Granted, atmospheric nuclear weapons testing has its own set of subtle consequences that are gradually becoming more well known.)

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I don't quite understand the meaning of your comment, it reads to me like "one time people worried about something but their worries were unfounded" with the subtext/implication that "therefore we don't need to worry" - about this? Or maybe need to worry in general? Or is it just to feel a bit more optimism that not every doomsday fear ends up coming to fruition?
> Or is it just to feel a bit more optimism that not every doomsday fear ends up coming to fruition?

Exactly.

I suspect mirror-image molecule life hasn't evolved because it wouldn't be fit enough to be self-sustaining.

Many invasive species get into new ecosystems only with human help. They can’t do it on their own, but once they’re there… Asian carp and zebra mussels.
I'm not in favor of a full-on precautionary principle for everything.

But if you take on too many 1 in 1000 or 1 in 10000 risks, eventually things go badly.

Russian roulette or reckless driving looks safe-- for awhile.

Note the person who really advanced the view of "igniting the atmosphere" with fission was Teller back in 1942, who was about the most pro-nuclear scientist you can find. They didn't just shrug and push the button: Bethe and others did a lot of math to conclude that it was exceptionally unlikely.

(Was it too much of a risk, given that we didn't have much experimental data about nitrogen-nitrogen cross-sections? Probably not, but we can't conclude that it was a reasonable risk purely on the basis of "we didn't die.")

But that's just one example of scientists warning about something and being wrong; it's just an anecdote that you can't draw much from.
No, they calculated the likelihood of this as being acceptably low. Are you criticising that they checked?
> These fears were unfounded.

Sure, but it's good to prove that one out before pressing the button.

Especially when there are zero other considerations making you (or the people funding you) think you need to rush past testing.
And when it was found out it wouldn't (at smaller scales), they figured out how much they'd have to scale it up to accomplish that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sundial_(weapon)

Seems like the risks of this research are similar to prions.

Conversely, Great Filter.