[overu589]

I’m finding so called “democracy” disappointing. Maybe we should reevaluate that certain domains should have an order and topology required by its purpose.

For instance, democracy has no place in formalized education. The student is the commodity and entered (and may exit) their arrangement of their own well informed consensual free will.

Beyond this, vigorous debate is nice. Democracy may be as base as appeal to mob appetite. Besides, aren’t democracies themselves contingent upon prosperity, peace, and well disseminated information (or something)? Which are we?

[raxxorraxor]

True that education should be neutral. For the topic of democracy it more or less resolves toward the question if you would like to be ruled by consent or be ruled by force. Maybe further analyze if there can be a justification for others to decide for them or not in abstract.

You more rarely get a mobs of educated people so in that education is an important factor for a functioning democratic society.

Otherwise it is a question of force and then you just need to protect your desire to rule against others. In my opinion that would be difficult in an educated society. On the other hand there are more often mobs that try to declare legitimacy of a ruler instead of promoting democracy. So the equation of democracy with mob rules is plainly wrong. Most mobs end in autocracies, and mob rule is more prevalent here as well. It is the result of a very short sighted analysis. A common one, a mob one in my opinion. That should of course be part of the curriculum.

[overu589]

Some of that is insightful, though I find the conclusion your own deception. The infrastructure of democracy was designed and configured by the capable. Living systems being generational, we have progressed now beyond centuries upon this platform. What exhibits today, under scrutiny, is that (firstly) those passing contemporary standards of education are not psycho-emotionally superior (as opposed to those taking it very seriously.) Also, today’s implementation is abstracted so far that sillystring and lies keep it all held together. “Too big to fail, it lumbers on at the expense of the lives of others.”

I do not blame the meager political selection, I blame the apatite and base lack of integrity among Americans. The apathy and conceit that they can live a life of distracted nonsense and then “decide” based on their thoughts feelings and beliefs when the time comes. It is complicated, demand more!

I wouldn’t wish notoriety upon anyone I care for btw, few can be as cruel and devastating as the apatite of that mob, whoever is ruling them. I know everyone thinks their neighbors are nice these days, yet there remains submerged ill wills among us.

The curriculum should certainly contain chapters of the corruptibility if not incompetence of ordinary persons.