[defrost]

And?

That's a serious ask, not a snarky response.

The headline is Canadians with nonterminal conditions sought assisted dying for social reasons

and my question is, so what happened? Was she killed by the state or did she get some much needed assistance with housing, etc. (or neither).

I'd argue that her coming forward is a good thing in the big picture as it adds concrete examples and data for making a case for better social policy and outcomes.

[dostick]

There’s a stigma/taboo attached to suicide, and that’s because suicide is kind of a show-stopper bug opened for modern society. And it does not want to admit the problem because it’s not capable of doing anything about it. Support phone numbers or “talk to someone” are there to defuse and keep the person living so they die of old age. Or if they do suicide successfully later on, the system washes its hands clean and avoids dealing with ingrained deep issues that cause suicides.

[llamaLord]

Both examples were killed by the state... That's my point, the safeguards failed and the people were euthanized...

[defrost]

Both cases concerned people who requested euthansia, and repeatedly so.

Both cases were borderline and raised concerns.

Both cases were reviewed.

It is imposssible to have any such system in the real world that does not have concerning edge cases.

It is a system that many people want for both themselves and for their relatives in cases that are clearcut.

The problematic reality about people with mental issues and disabilities is that they are also autonomous people who have opinions, think for themselves, and sometimes decide that their own circumstances are no longer tenable following years, decades even, of struggling through.

See eg: The Last Leg from the UK.

It's not desirable to have a system that kills people that don't want to die and wouldn't choose death if they had better options.

What are the housing options for people with chronic mental issues (eg: the extreme examples of schizophrenia, bipolar disorders, etc) that have no support and have exhausted friends and relatives?

These are not easy problems.

What is your proposed solution?