[navane]

That concerns a small minority of cases, the vast majority is elderly dying people who want to keep their dignity. By steering the discussion to that minority, which even itself is still debatable, you risk flushing the child with the bath water.

[mensetmanusman]

By hesitating to discuss, you enable bureaucrats to suggest maid when they want to save money instead of treating a disability (which has already happened in the case of the Olympian).

[defrost]

The single bureacrat in question was flagged, investigated, and removed from contact with veterans.

Their action in suggesting MAID was not policy, was rapidly caught, and was the subject of a very public inquiry.

Had the suggestion been followed up by the veterens in question there were layers in place, interviews and checks, to make sure that MAID was both desired and appropriate.

[mensetmanusman]

This is like trusting people to behave while owning guns. Curse of knowledge writ large.

[defrost]

It's a demonstration that the system currently in place has verification checks.

No one was killed against their will here.

There's a legitimate debate to be had on the question of whether it was even wrong to alert an injured veteren that MAID was an option given they had the free will and the gumption to reply No way, Feck off, Not interested.

The onus here should be on secondary interviews sorting out whether a person really did have insurmountable chronic pain and problems or whether they were depressed and lacked resources to deal with a situation.

[mensetmanusman]

There have been people killed against their will at the time because they previously signed something to ignore their future self.

[defrost]

Under MAID and against their will?

Can you provide details of this?

[larme]

The same logic applies to capital punishment

[cocacola1]

I don't think Canada has the death penalty.

[addicted]

I don’t follow.

How does this apply to capital punishment?

[itake]

Many people are opposed to capital punishment due to the small minority of innocent folks it eliminates.

> By steering the discussion to that [innocent] minority, which even itself is still debatable, you risk flushing the child with the bath water [and killing the really bad criminals].

[areoform]

There's a difference. The people with MAID choose to die.

When innocent people are killed via capital punishment, they have no choice.

And it's not a "small minority" either. We don't have good numbers, but it's significant enough to be over 22% or roughly 1 in 5. That's not a small minority.

For Florida, since 1973, 30 people awaiting execution have been exonerated so far. The state has executed 106 people.

Out of 136 cases, 30 were shown to be innocent beyond any reasonable doubt. I have no doubt that there might be other innocent people within the 106 that were executed.

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-issues/innocence/innocen...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_executed_in_Flo...