[hintymad]

A naive question: why does k8s require more documentation and understanding than using EC2 + EBS, if I don't have to consider cost. To set up my infrastructure, I launch clusters for my services, I map EBS or use ephemeral storage for stateful services. I use EC2's APIs to operate my clusters, such as autoscaling and auto healing. I don't have to worry about networking except probably private IP vs public IP. I barely need to spend time learning about EC2/EBS and simply use my intuitive to look up documentation when needed. Most of the EC2/EBS concepts are just intuitive. So, why do so many people say that k8s is complex and hard to get right? Shouldn't the default setup as easy as EC2+EBS, and leave the doors to more advanced stuff?

[thrw42A8N]

If you're so good you can intuite your way through AWS, you're good enough to do the same with K8s. It's about the same level of complexity, really. Don't listen to juniors who saw a cloud for the first time, shit the bed and went back to deploying onto something that looks more like their laptop.

Start with Minikube on Ubuntu via Snap if you want the really easy way. Deploy that on Hetzner or something using Cloud-init. Auto cluster discovery is a job for one evening. I like to use Pulumi or Terraform to see what I can play with on a cloud provider and operate it in a sane way.

And I use the K8s provider too: https://registry.terraform.io/providers/hashicorp/kubernetes...

[Atotalnoob]

Out of the box, k8s gives you a lot of things that you’d have to build out manually for EC2 deployed apps.

If you matched k8s features 1:1, you’d end up with a massive unwieldy beast, much more complex than k8s.

Is k8s complex? Yes, of course.