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by maz1b 551 days ago
It seems a bit.. abrasive and brash to label this an eating disorder, no?

As a doctor and technical founder/CEO myself, I really like patients who are into their own health and fitness, obviously this guy has the means and resources to take it to an extreme, but I think the lesson he wants to impart is that there are benefits to investing in your own health, the same as people invest in self-tooling such as expensive Macbooks/Mac studios, running shoes, and much more.

The whole world would see such titan sized improvements in GDP along with personal lives. Men and women would be happier if everyone strove to be fit, "younger" (with respect to wellness and fitness) and in better shape, not to mention that would translate to very real economic benefit in every country.

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The author's point is that these extremes aren't healthy and fit.
I like this reasoning. When evaluating if an individual has an eating disorder it is vital that the physician doing the evaluation spend the requisite time imagining various scenarios relating to the gross domestic product of the country they are in, or the earth as a whole
Given where his body fat and his core body temperature is these days, let's withhold judgment a bit before we crow about "titan sized improvements in GDP".

He's running an n=1 experiment well out of established parameters, and the outcome is far from guaranteed.

It's inappropriate in general to diagnose people with psych disorders based on their social media and public persona
I generally agree that we shouldn't armchair diagnose people, especially not for gossip's sake. But in this case Bryan is actively promoting a lifestyle which looks symptomatic of a disorder, so it's probably in the public interest to point that out.

The post author did so in a thoughtful and respectful manner.

Exhibiting symptoms of a disorder is not the same as having a disorder which is why it's irresponsible and inappropriate to diagnose people based on their social media.
eh eating disorders in particular have quite the social contagion. anorexia definitely spreads via social media.
Bryan clearly is not anorexic because he gained a bunch of weight/fat when his doctor told him he was at a dangerous weight. Someone suffering from anorexia is not going to increase their body fat by 5-10% on their doctors recommendation.
I'm not saying he's anorexic. I'm using it as an example of how eating disorders have a significant social contagion component to them.
GDP is a pointless metric, if we all get cancer GDP is going to go way up.
I don’t think you understand how down the rabbit hole this guy goes.

> Bryan Johnson’s supplements list includes more than 100 compounds taken as powders, tablets, and capsules, designed to support different aspects of his health.

This is an insane thing to do and I have delved deeply into supplements myself and it is stunning how hard it is to find evidence that any of them do anything beneficial long term.

This matches me own experience and daily diary of trying things, rating how I feel, bloodwork, etc. The only thing I’ve ever found beneficial long term is testosterone, sunlight, and exercise.

He sells supplements, including specific ingredients for which there isn't much evidence of efficacy. Even if you assume most of what he preaches and sells is scientific, some of it is unscientific which sort of undermines the entire pitch, I think.
Testosterone in the form of steroids and TRT? Not judging just curious.
Just trt, actually going too high >1000 feels awful to me.

Just fixing this world decline helps so much.

https://sci-hub.se/10.1016/j.euf.2020.02.006

There is also big question isn't it is more harm to the system removing its ability to produce what it should produce by itself.
Yeah, you won't find evidence for two decades because of the time and resourcing it would take to fund it, plus none of them being in metabolic wards.

You can sit around and wait for "The Science" or you can be a data point for yourself.

Uh are you a psychiatrist because it doesn't sound like it? This definitely looks like it could meet DSM criteria as an eating disorder.

To the muggles out there, generally speaking non psychiatric doctors (and many older, out of date psych professionals for that matter) know about as much about modern psych diagnostic criteria as a potato.