[neogodless]

> Go get your shot if you want

So it's optional to get it or not get it.

> It is about forcing it on us.

Oh. So you were forced to get it. We should fight against the law that forced you to get a vaccine. Can you help me track down the legislation so I can help you spread the word?

[FollowingTheDao]

People were forced to get it. Force does not imply government force, but government not protecting us from people who do force people to get vaccinated.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/1-in-...

Federal workers were forced to get the vaccination as well.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases...

A list of mandates here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_vaccination_mandates_...

Do you have some sort of mind blindness to what happened during COVID?

[wat10000]

Vaccines have been forced for centuries. Somehow nobody cared, except for a tiny fringe of kooks, until 2021.

[FollowingTheDao]

I think there is huge difference between past vaccines and the still experiment mRNA Vaccines. It is disingenuous of you to assume a similarity between the two situations.

There were vaccine related injuries that were not expected from the trials, as is usual in new vaccines.

[wat10000]

I happen to think it’s disingenuous to assume the new vaccines are weird and different and therefore your reluctance is justified unlike other people in the past.

[FollowingTheDao]

Vaccine 1) Dead vaccine injected in person at defined amoungt.

Vaccine 2) Instruction to make Spike protein injected into body which makes a random amount of spike protein that they never quantified.

https://bpspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/prp...

" It was hoped that resident and circulating immune cells attracted to the injection site make copies of the spike protein while the injected mRNA degrades within a few days. It was also originally estimated that recombinant spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines would persist in the body for a few weeks. In reality, clinical studies now report that modified SARS-CoV-2 mRNA routinely persist up to a month from injection and can be detected in cardiac and skeletal muscle at sites of inflammation and fibrosis, while the recombinant spike protein may persist a little over half a year in blood. "

[cempaka]

mRNA vaccines are absolutely weird and different -- their mechanism of prompting an immune response is fundamentally different as it involves prompting the vaccinee's own cells to manufacture antigens.

Even if they weren't weird and different, previous vaccine rollouts like Pandemrix show that caution is warranted in the early days of rollout for any vaccine. COVID vax fundamentalists couldn't accept that many people might reach a legitimately different assessment of the risks and benefits because in their absolutely hysterical worldview, SARS-CoV-2 was tantamount to a death sentence or lifelong disability.