[data_maan]

How about overturning the result when the elite accepts it, but then discovers that he (or whoever helped him) actually manipulated people via TikTok?

It's not really a true people's vote in that case any more, so it seems rather like defending democracy.

[jdck1326]

My point is that our personal views on his positions and character are irrelevant. You seem to be discussing a different point.

[datameta]

You seem to be discussing the Romanian election in a vacuum divorced from the reality that Putin is doing everything in his power to sow chaos in Europe because the calculus just works for him.

[RealityVoid]

Democracy works because it leads to reasonable outcomes for the vas majority of the population. If the election itself leads to unreasonable ones, it ceases to be a good political system.

You know about the old dilemma used for justifying the electoral college "the tyranny of the" majority". Well, me and my countrymen mostly judge that we were about to vote for tyranny in our country. An EC like approach wouldn't have stopped it because of the vote repartition, but only because of electors refusal to vote for a particular candidate. Well, actually, it kind of DID stop it because we had the CCR step in and declare the election null.

This fetishizing of democracy need to take into account the safely valves baked into the law for situations like this and a safety valve just triggered.

[jokethrowaway]

every form of communication is manipulation

the only thing you can attack him for is the lack of reporting of election spending