[harisenbon]

I feel the same way, and I've been trying to get away from Cake for a while, but the fact that everything except the quirkiness of the ORM is so nice that I stick with it.

Also, the next version is supposed to redo the ORM to return actual models.

[giulianob]

I wonder if the performance will be better or worst though. Creating tons of objects might impact it but they might be able to do more lazy loading to help.