[mrtksn]

Tell me again why 400M people should pay a half a year worth of salary as extra to buy an inferior car to save the jobs of those who failed to make a good product? Let them fail, pay them unemployment to prevent social issues then go get the cheap good cars and pay a bit more tax for social security. Cut out the shareholders and executives.

[layer8]

If you do that often enough, at some point the state won’t have enough money to pay the unemployed any more. Also, there are reasons why the same product can be manufactured more cheaply in China than (say) in Germany, that have to do with different standards for labor rights, safety standards, and so on, not with anyone failing to make a good product. And it’s not like China doesn’t subsidize its automotive industry as well.

[chupy]

A lot of the things that we buy in Europe are already manufactured cheaply in China with different standards etc. We are moving a lot of manufacturing back to Europe, mostly in the eastern part of it. That part is still 'cheap' aka they can put the made in eu logo on the box, pay employees eastern Europe prices and ask buyers western Europe prices.

The same thing with the eu car companies... they even took the money from the states where they had factories (Germany, Belgium, France) which greatly subsidized them, increased their profits and margins then moved to the next EU state and beyond.

[datadrivenangel]

At a certain point, if you don't approve of another regions labor policies, you have to buy less of their exports, otherwise you won't be able to produce your own goods.