[ojl]

In what way did Ukraine and the west threaten Russia? What bad thing do you believe would have happened to Russia if they hadn’t decided to invade and destroy big parts of Ukraine? It’s difficult for me to imagine that they had no other choice.

[holoduke]

Its the economic pressure western nations use to bully other countries. They aggressively bought themself into Ukraine by bribing officials and other key persons. Its no secret that companies like Monsanto and others played dirty games and did not care for it citizens at all. Just like now. Or do you believe there any sympathy for Ukrainian citizens from western powers. Of course not. They only see dollars and more dollars. Ultimately the west with its economic expansion greed needs Russia to fall apart so that they can continue to grab what they need.

[realusername]

There's never been any economic sanctions against Russia until they invaded Ukraine. The economy is shitty in Russia because it's a broken country where the oligarchs are stealing all the money.

And yeah sure it's also about money as well, Ukrainians compare the situation in Poland and Romania with the situation in Russia and Belarus. Let's say that all the Russian propaganda in the world means nothing against such a wealth gap.

Ukrainians don't want to stay poor in Russia's influence the same way that the rest of eastern europe didn't as well.