[tbrownaw]

> Switch to single payer, dump the middlemen, and have our taxes pay for essential services (keeping us alive and healthy). Seems simple enough but…

... But you still have group A (patients) paying group B (doctors) with group C's (taxpayers', or currently insurers'/policyholders') money.

[MattPalmer1086]

Sure - but it's a lot simpler with less middlemen and way more cost effective.

What point are you making here?

[sundaeofshock]

Uh, group A and group C are the same. We would see much more preventative care if such care was free at time of service.