[wokwokwok]

I'll be generous and just say, maybe people should just use llama.cpp and not ollama if they care about having nice things, if merging support for existing features is that difficult.

It seems like it's probably a better choice overall.

That said, I'm sure people worked very hard on this, and it's nice to see it as a part of ollama for the people that use it.

Also:

> Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that".

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[smcleod]

Im not sure what kind of vendetta you have against Ollama but I'll paste you here what I've written before when I've heard claims similar to Ollama is just a wrapper for llama.cpp:

With llama.cpp running on a machine, how do you connect your LLM clients to it and request a model gets loaded with a given set of parameters and templates?

… you can’t, because llama.cpp is the inference engine - and it’s bundled llama-cpp-server binary only provides relatively basic server functionality - it’s really more of demo/example or MVP.

Llama.cpp is all configured at the time you run the binary and manually provide it command line args for the one specific model and configuration you start it with.

Ollama provides a server and client for interfacing and packaging models, such as:

  Hot loading models (e.g. when you request a model from your client Ollama will load it on demand).
  Automatic model parallelisation.
  Automatic model concurrency.
  Automatic memory calculations for layer and GPU/CPU placement.
  Layered model configuration (basically docker images for models).
  Templating and distribution of model parameters, templates in a container image.
  Near feature complete OpenAI compatible API as well as it’s native native API that supports more advanced features such as model hot loading, context management, etc…
  Native libraries for common languages.
  Official container images for hosting.
  Provides a client/server model for running remote or local inference servers with either Ollama or openai compatible clients.
  Support for both an official and self hosted model and template repositories.
  Support for multi-modal / Vision LLMs - something that llama.cpp is not focusing on providing currently.
  Support for serving safetensors models, as well as running and creating models directly from their Huggingface model ID.
  In addition to the llama.cpp engine, Ollama are working on adding additional model backends.

Ollama is not “better” or “worse” than llama.cpp because it’s an entirely different tool.