[vouaobrasil]

From the article:

> “Bad things could happen because of either the misuse of AI or because we lose control of it,” says Yoshua Bengio, a deep-learning researcher at the University of Montreal, Canada.

God, I hate phrases like this. We've already lost control of it. We don't have any control. AI will evolve in the rich medium of capitalism and be used by anyone due to its ease of use and even laws will be unable to restrict that. At this point, since we've set up a system that promotes technologies regardless of their long-term cost or dangers, we simply cannot control them. Bad things are already happening and human beings are being integrated into a matrix of technology whose ultimate purposes is just the furthering of technology.

Even people like Dr. Bengio are just pawns in a system, whose purpose is just to present an artificially balanced viewpoint as if there were a reasonable set of pros and cons, designed to make people think that we could "lose control" but with the right thinking, we don't have to let that happen. I mean come on, just suppose for a second the hypothesis of "AI is already out of control". If Dr. Bengio and their colleagues acknowledged that, then they'd be out of a job. So just by evolutionary pressure on "organizations that monitor AI", they have to be artificially balanced.

[soco]

As a thought exercise, on one hand the technology's purpose is having no purpose at all, just doing what it was made to do. So I'd rather focus on the technology people, where some develop it for the sake of developing, and others want to extract most money possible out of it. Nothing surprising because capitalism, but now there's a real possibility that the AI owner(s) will extract all the money there is. And I have no idea how our society will function then - until now rulers always needed subjects... We try building guardrails in laws and regulations exactly because we don't know where all this can lead, but as even today humans find ways to circumvent laws I expect the AI finding ways around its guardrails as well (with human help for sure). Thus sooner or later we will unavoidably come to that point where we have no idea what's gonna happen, and that's when usually unrest peaks.

[vouaobrasil]

I disagree with your first statement. Technology has a purpose, and that is to evolve itself. The ancient greeks had this perspective, so did several philosophers, and I agree with them.

[mrfinn]

We are not in control either of the nukeclear power which is available for quite a few nations, since a lot of decades now, as well. Soo... c'mon cheer up most probably is some kind of simulation anyway.

[MrMcCall]

Thank you for this. I'm glad someone has their head on straight.

I think it's like some rich guys said, "Lets roll this tiny snowball down this mountain towards that village."

Of course, we are also heating an already overheating Earth with these mostly useless things "just to see" (line from Gibson's Neuromancer, spoken by the psychopath).

[danaris]

> We've already lost control of it. We don't have any control.

I think it's important to be clear on what's being said here:

There's a very big difference between "we, the people, do not have control over what Silicon Valley businesses and billionaires are doing with AI" and "there are AIs out there that no human has any control over".

The former is current reality. The latter is sci-fi, and nothing yet has demonstrated that it is actually possible.

The former is also precisely what I would describe as "the misuse of AI".

[vouaobrasil]

You are right and I do not think anyone making AI has much control over it either because too many people who make it are addicted to the process in a very similar way in which drug users are addicted to drugs. And also, the prisoner's dilemma solution is almost forcing a lot of people to control it.

So I really do believe that NO human has control over it, really.