[aryan14]

How did it fail at being P2P e-cash?

You can use bitcoin completely/as anonymously as cash if you wanted to, the same way you’d have to put in a bit of effort to have a completely anonymous cash transaction.

Monero (XMR) which is a fork of bitcoin, is much closer to actual cash

[ajkdhcb2]

Monero is fine. But how can you even use bitcoin anonymously now? Even wasabi and samourai wallet are shut down as far as i know. Seems highly risky to use any tool like that since i dont know what the consequences will be in the future. Joinmarket? I'm sure it is possible but it is error-prone, takes so much effort, time and fees that i see it as a failure

[aryan14]

A very easy anonymous way is to simply use a self custody wallet like Exodus.

You can buy ETH, then you can use a TOR crypto exchange to swap it from ETH -> BTC into your wallet.

Just an idea though

[polotics]

well you can use Bisq right?

[ajkdhcb2]

I have used it, but i dont see how it is related to being able to transact privately. As soon as you do anything linked to your name with those coins puchased on bisq, the whole batch is linked to your identity

[stackingsaunter]

Lightning is private

[ajkdhcb2]

Not based on everything ive read. Happy to be shown evidence of otherwise