[nightski]

I mean I live in America and I have never experienced a store needing to unlock steaks or vitamins from a security case, seen a mass tent camp, or lived near many drug deaths. Our water is top quality, I took sex ed in high school (back in late 90s/early 2000s), and my wife and I walk or bike almost every day in our neighborhood. We don't live anywhere rich or fancy either, quite the opposite. Just a normal city of around 200,000 people in a lower population state.

[jorvi]

Could you name a similar-sized city that has the same qualities as yours?*

I’d love to learn, because I’ve mostly gotten the impression that the smaller an American city is, paradoxically the less walkable/bikable it gets due to lack of public transit, sidewalks, bike lanes etc.

*or your own city, but I understand the hesitation on geolocating yourself

[nightski]

I never said it was walkable per se, in the sense that is commonly used to mean everything you need in life is a few blocks away :) I'm not sure the large appeal with that anyways.

I work from home so no commute, but my wife does drive to work. However the grocery stores are less than a mile away and her work is a 5 minute drive (the nice thing about small cities / towns is that if you have to drive, it usually isn't very far).

That said, we do indeed walk or bike almost every day for exercise and to get outside. Myself I only use the car once or twice a week really when we go to stores or out to eat. But even if I lived in a "walkable" city I'd probably do that anyways because we'd want to try something new.

[GiorgioG]

Hey feel free to stay in Europe, seriously we don’t care what you think of the way we live. If Europe was so awesome my parents would have stayed there, but thankfully they moved here for a more prosperous future for their kids.

[jorvi]

> my parents would have stayed there, but thankfully they moved here for a more prosperous future for their kids.

Social mobility in the US has dropped from 90% to 50%, so good luck with the coin flip.

[GiorgioG]

You keep making statements from things you've read online about the US, but you've never lived here as far as I can tell. I've lived in Europe, and it's not for me. The difference is I'm not shitting on Europe. In my firsthand experience, some (not all) Europeans have a superiority complex towards the US. To those and you, get over yourselves.

[bdangubic]

“europe” is not awesome. case in point - whatever shithole your parents lived at forced to leave and come to US of all places :)

but many _parts_ of europe are really, really nice :)

[GiorgioG]

You know, it's possible for both Europe and the US to be really, really nice - to different people. But some people need to feel superior. I have lived in both places, and I prefer the US.

[bdangubic]

I may be wrong but I don't think it is about "superiority" ... I think Europeans look at how US workers (VAST majority of them) are treated by their employers and go "who in their RIGHT MIND would live like this - regardless of what the 'income/compensation' for that might be. America has an entirely different way of life. I have been "best man" at 5 weddings and have christened 11 kids. I hardly see any of them. Everyone is "busy" running around, work work work, then errands etc etc... in most of Europe this would be unheard of, there is higher value placed on social aspects of life. Hence the myriad of studies and stories and... about general loneliness in America (these studies often include people that are married and have children).

Another personal example - my sister is highly educated, has two PhD and I consider her the smartest person I know. Years ago we were discussing something and I mentioned that one of my dear friends is seeing a psychiatrist. My sister scoffed... And I was taken aback to say the least. How can someone that smart and that educated dismiss someone who is basically a Doctor and spent years educating themselves in this field. After talking through it I realized that if you have robust social life, myriad of friends, different friends to talk to about different things (as well as family) you just might not need a psychiatrist to talk to... Just an entirely different kind of life/existence...