[fuhsnn]

Yes, this is quite important for C projects as it leads to subtle bugs. I also long for a way to let make detect a change of $CC (new build of the compiler itself) in the context of debugging a compiler against third party makefile projects.

[anyfoo]

Have a step that takes the SHA256 or similar of $CC, make that a dependency. You’d need slightly more advanced make features if you want to make it “pretty” (and not just, say, touch a file through some shell code comparison), but this is a slightly more advanced request.

Or potentially just specify the path to $CC itself as dependency? Presumably, if the C compiler changes, the timestamp of its executable does too. (Bad if it goes backwards, though.)

[yjftsjthsd-h]

> Have a step that takes the SHA256 or similar of $CC, make that a dependency.

Careful, one more step and we'll start recreating nix in Makefiles;)

(Wait, could we? Should we?)

[CJefferson]

I often use a Python program called 'fabricate', which basically checks every file a command opens, and re-runs the command if any touched file changes.

I love it, and I hoped this would become the future of how build-systems are built -- you could automatically parallelise, rebuild, make clean, everything, just by tracking which files are read, and written.

It does add a bit of overhead, but I'd be willing to pay that for simplicity. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have caught on.

[anyfoo]

That is neat, but also super brittle, and full of abstraction leakiness, potentially leading to both false positives and negatives. Sounds like it would break down with ccache or distcc immediately, for example.

[CJefferson]

I never had any false negatives, they are basically impossible in this framework, except it does assume if a program, and all it's inputs are unchanged, the output is unchanged, so this is no good for programs which randomly produce different outputs.

ccache can cause things to get built twice, because the first run it sees it tries to read a file, then later writes to it, so it knows something different might happen if you run again -- but then again that is just ccache doing it's thing, so it's quick. Yes, distcc wouldn't work, but then again I find distcc super-brittle (so hard to make sure everything has the same compiler versions, etc), I may have used it 20 years ago, but I don't think I ever would now!

[anyfoo]

Fair!

[dezgeg]

The 'tup' build system also works this way.