[krawczstef]

+1 for vanilla code without LangChain.

[hbamoria]

I believe you're looking for notebooks w/o Langchain. We plan to publish them in next few days :)

[imworkingrn]

whats wrong with langchain ?

[ErikBjare]

I haven't used it in a year, but my experience was it frequently broke in all sorts of ways. I have since avoided it like the plague.

[imworkingrn]

I hear you. Had the same experience. It's matured a lot since then though. Got back to it a few weeks ago and it feels surprisingly stable.

[chompychop]

Does it still have the "abstraction hell" issue when trying to work with it for custom, non out-of-the-box use cases?

[prsdm]

it's much more stable now.

[sauwan]

Does it still put you in dependency hell though, where you can't add new packages without causing tons of version conflicts?

[efriis]

Howdy! Erick from LangChain here. If anyone is seeing version conflicts on particular packages, please let me know!

These usually stem from overly strict constraints in the underlying sdks for the integrations, and in general we've been pretty successful asking for those constraints to be loosened. The main "problem" constraint we've seen in the past has been on httpx. Curious if you've seen others!

[chompychop]

Huh? All of their notebooks use LangChain.