[mschuster91]

> Imagine the Western online MRA/redpill/incel vs. radfem circles but as core identities in national politics.

I have zero idea about SK, but ... "woke vs not woke" has become very much a core identity part in Western politics. The last US election has proven that, and what's going on here in Germany especially with Markus Söder isn't funny any more either [1], we got elections looming in about three months.

[1] https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2024-11/markus-soede...

[lesuorac]

Trump would've won even if his platform had "lets add fluoride to the water to turn the frogs gay".

Pretty much every "Western" election voted out the incumbent due to their either poor economy or poor messaging about the economy. The swing-PA voter didn't vote out Biden because their daughter was dominating trans-kids in sports; they want grocery prices down.

[dfxm12]

In the context of western politics, "woke vs not woke" is just today's name for progressive (or even status quo) vs reactionary politics. What's being referred to in SK is somewhat more specific to incels and the 4B movement (which is more radical than how westerners have been using it).

[kelipso]

I've read in multiple places that 4B is just an online thing, maybe a couple of thousand women, that has blown up in western news media and not a real life thing in Korea.

[majesticglue]

you are correct. Western news media wants it to be bigger than it is right now, because if you check the last month or so, the only people ever talking about 4B movement are western liberals and hmm i wonder why Western Media outlets are obsessed with talking about 4B since trump became into power. Dubious motives.

[VyseofArcadia]

Trump hasn't come into power yet. He doesn't take office until near the end of January.