[Cthulhu_]

In between when that kickstarter went off and now, another company funded, built and released Elite Dangerous, then added multiple extensions adding planet surfaces, first-person stuff, etc to it. I mean in terms of gameplay it's nowhere near as ambitious and it's got an absence of story, but it actually released and gained success.

[dvngnt_]

ED has some cool moments like traveling, controls, vr support, but after getting over the initial impressions there isn't much of a game for many players to enjoy and the later expansions packs have not been well-received. I hope ED is not the benchmark since SC has so much more potential in single/multiplayer

[baq]

and yet, nobody talks about elite dangerous on HN, but star citizen gets discussed.

like one of the top level comments observes - the sold product is hope that it gets done, not the deliverable.