[ilikeatari]

So this was a gps tracker that was installed by a fleet and never removed. The larger issue is that most car companies in the US are reselling your data on newish vehicles (2016+) anyway. I am still amazed that this is not a larger issue.

[ziddoap]

>The larger issue is that most car companies in the US are reselling your data on newish vehicles (2016+) anyway.

A fun read related to this: "Privacy Nightmare on Wheels: Every Car Brand Reviewed by Mozilla - Including Ford, Volkswagen and Toyota - Flunks Privacy Test"

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/blog/privacy-nightmare-on-...

Small excerpt:

>The very worst offender is Nissan. The Japanese car manufacturer admits in their privacy policy to collecting a wide range of information, including sexual activity, health diagnosis data, and genetic data — but doesn’t specify how. They say they can share and sell consumers’ “preferences, characteristics, psychological trends, predispositions, behavior, attitudes, intelligence, abilities, and aptitudes” to data brokers, law enforcement, and other third parties.

[dylan604]

Why? It is quite clear that the mass populace just doesn't care. That's the bigger story. So many people are quite happy giving away data that they don't fully understand or even want to take time to try to understand as long as they get free/discounted service/fees and use the same equipment to keep up with the Jones. Another study should be why otherwise smart people cannot come to terms with this.

[athrowaway3z]

People care about privacy. But in our current telling its a hard problem to understand and the costs are too high. The costs are not talking to friends, or not driving a car. So as a coping mechanism people will convince themselves they dont care for privacy.

The phenomena you're describing isn't about caring.

You're describing a "trade" in the same way mobsters and conmen do.

[dylan604]

What are you on about? Mobsters and conmen break laws. There are no laws being broken by these data hoarders/brokers. Maybe it's closer to Stockholm syndrome or abusive/toxic relationship or something where people are mentally accepting the unhealthy situation as if it were normal.

The costs of talking to friends endlessly about this boring privacy is having no friends. You're telling an addict what they are doing is not good for them, but they are not ready to hear it.