[rusty_venture]

That's a poor analogy - a house is private property which only you and invited guests may enter. A website you publish on the Internet can be viewed by anyone who discovers it. Not including accessibility features excludes disabled users from reaping the benefits of your site. So a better analogy would be "if I build a public space do I have to make it accessible?" You betcha!

[zwnow]

I guess this is a philosophical discourse. I simply build my own apps not for everyone and its not my problem if someone has a problem with that. If I build something thats meant for the public I try to build it accessible, but only if I feel like its needed. Seems like there is a market for accessibility software, why not jump on it? Why isn't the accessibility software good enough to not make the devs go extra steps on projects that are clearly not meant for everyone? The internet is for everyone, sure. My apps aren't. Simple as that.

[awkwardpotato]

> Why isn't the accessibility software good enough to not make the devs go extra steps on projects that are clearly not meant for everyone?

Is it not an extra step to intentionally hide the scroll bar? And thus, simply no extra work to just... not? Scrolls bars are a convenient feature for all users, nobody is judging the appearance of your website around how it looks with a scroll bar.

[zwnow]

Try building a modern looking website only for scrollbars to look like they are from 1990. They break immersion. Especially on artsy websites that try to immerse people.

[wizzwizz4]

This is like people who use synonyms prolifically, replacing all of their words so that lexical units do not repeat. It appears jarring and somewhat pretentious, past a certain point: readers will rarely notice the common UI paradigms which they have come to expect, but viewers assuredly become aware upon contradictory circumstances such as absence. Some feel these pseudo-minimalistic phenomena are grating. You intend greatness alongside immersion, however an effect most contrary may occur.

Art? Nah. (Maybe once.) Dead horse gimmick, now.

[amatecha]

Sooner or later, you will be less able than you are now. Everyone faces disability, it's just a matter of when, or how rapidly it happens.

[zwnow]

I already face disability as i have to wear glasses to see properly. Still wont change the fact that I wont put the burden of making my apps accessible onto myself as they clearly aren't meant for disabled people and/or people that I don't want to use my app.

[lenkite]

What happens if you drop your glasses and they break. Will you squint & hunt for your scrollbars ?

[zwnow]

I'd buy new glasses.