[llm_trw]

Yes its pretty funny when you realise what a tiny corner of the design space of programs most users inhabit that they think things like lsp are an amazing tool instead of a weekend throwaway project.

What's even funnier is how much they attack anyone who points this out.

[throw10920]

This is sneering, where you don't respond to a particular poster's point, but instead attack a fictional group of people that you made up based on two the intersection of different attributes.

It's against the HN guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html), boring, unenlightening, not intellectually gratifying, degrades the quality of the site, and takes far less intelligence than the "mental equivalent of scurvy" that you name. Don't do it.

[llm_trw]

So is yours:

> Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

[foo42]

perhaps the "attacks" relate to the condescending tone with which you relate your superior skills.

I think most people's amazement with lsp relates to the practical benefits of such a project _not_ being thrown away but taken that last 10% (which is 90% of the work) to make it suitable for so many use cases and selling people on the idea of doing so.

[llm_trw]

What's amazing about lsp isn't the polish, it's that we've hobbled our selves so much that a tool like it is even useful.

Only having exposure to the algol family of languages does for your mental capabilities what a sugar only diet does for your physical capabilities. It used to be the case that all programmers had exposure to assembly/machine code which broke them out of the worst habits algols instill. No longer.

Pointing out that the majority of programmers today have the mental equivalent of scurvy is somehow condescending but the corp selling false teeth along with their sugar buckets is somehow commendable.

[lolinder]

> Pointing out that the majority of programmers today have the mental equivalent of scurvy is somehow condescending

You can (and many people do!) say the exact same thing in a different tone and with different word choice and have people nod along in agreement. If you're finding that people consistently react negatively to you when you say it, please consider that it might be because of the way in which you say it.

I'm one of those who would normally nod along in agreement and writing in support, but your comments here make me want to disagree on principle because you come off as unbearably smug.

[llm_trw]

>I'm one of those who would normally nod along in agreement and writing in support, but your comments here make me want to disagree on principle because you come off as unbearably smug.

So much the worse for you.

[dzaima]

Knowing non-algol languages won't make editor actions any less useful for algol-like. If anything, it'll just make you pretend that you don't need such and as such will end up less productive than you could be.

And editor actions can be useful for any language which either allow you to edit things, or has more than one way to do the same thing (among a bunch of other things), which includes basically everything. Of course editor functionality isn't a thing that'd be 100% beneficial 100% of the time, but it's plenty above 0% if you don't purposefully ignore it.

[itishappy]

Kinda feels like this might be an instance of simply simply holding your tools wrong. What about ASM prevents incremental parsing and structured editing from being useful?

Some concrete examples for us lesser mortals please.

[llm_trw]

The fact that there is no separation between data, addresses and commands?

The general advice is that you shouldn't mix them, but the general advice today is that you shouldn't use ASM anyway.