[IntelMiner]

I'll probably be tarred and feathered for this opinion, but "everything works out of the box" Mac feels like wishful thinking

Every time Apple pushes an update that causes some bizarre issue, people talk about it at length

On the one hand, software is written by humans. Humans make mistakes

On the other hand, Apple by design supports such a tiny set of hardware (that they largely build themselves and tightly couple to their software) that it's strange they're unable to iron out the issues in test before pushing the updates and ending making the tech news cycle when something goes wrong

[justahuman74]

> that it's strange they're unable to iron out the issues in test before ...

It's the deadlines.

"Must ship feature before WWDC"

[thanksgiving]

I can't help but wonder if this requirement if secrecy for a big bang marketing event that is called wwdc is to blame as well. At least the different teams working in the same product should have access to the complete product, right?

[jon_richards]

Last major update broke all my vpns for a while. Really not fun having to switch to ssh bastions to do anything.

[usefulcat]

I don’t really share your experience, but otoh I rarely have problems with MacOS. Although to be fair, I also do my best to wait the better part of a year before updating. So I’m always ~1 year behind, but then I also avoid a lot of the teething problems.

[IntelMiner]

I don't use a Mac so I can't exactly cite specific issues I've had. But I've definitely seen a lot of them posted and reported on HN, ArsTechnica, Reddit and other places

Due to how small Apple's hardware list is, issues directly impact a much larger percentage of their userbase

[hulitu]

> On the one hand, software is written by humans. Humans make mistakes

That's why we had proceses and testing. But they are too expensive. /s