| I agree with just start it going. But i'm using generalizations just because the OP does that too; freelancer services suck. Yes they do, for certain jobs. The fact that there ARE countless variables gives me pause about the viability of this project. You either try to provide a service which github/37signals would hire which they will never do (they would try to steal all the people away but they wouldn't outsource) or you are trying to give less high brow companies 'worth for their money'. I think in GENERAL the market is big enough for this, it's just an uphill battle as most companies won't listen. They are price focused EVEN though they had very bad experiences. We have people calling: 'I have had very bad experiences on freelancer.com, so now I want a local person, I found you. I paid $2000 on freelancer.com and that was shit, so i'm thinking $5k max here.'. This is just very normal behavior. Without seeing the project I'm 100% sure, after reading that, that this project will be FAR over $20k to build, not $5k. This is, however, not what the buyer thinks. Issues like that are by far the biggest part of the market. And enterprises probably won't use the services as they want to be pampered locally (so it can be a frontoffice service in front of this, but not just this). Also; 'technical skills are easy to pick up'. Right. I agree with the people skill part, but technical skills are easy to pick up is complete rubbish. It's just simply not true. 'Cheap developers' do not only lack people skills as you are implying; they are mostly just really bad and not capable of 'picking up technical skills easily'. I can copy interviews with CS Master graduates with 3+ years experiences showing that after roughly 10 years of study + experience 'nothing' was mastered. And that's not an exception. I understand that your experiences are different; I would like to see what you mean in that case. We have managed to turn every promising/talented devs into very valuable developers with people skills; there are a few (really a few, like 1 or 2 on over 500) who where so Rainman that it didn't work, but the rest did. So what kind of 'cheap developers' do you mean, because I think we mean the same thing but you just call that people skills? But yes, right here is; people skills and especially quite advanced people skills and project management skills are needed to do large projects where this pesky money thing hardly ever appears; these people are very hard to get on this site. If you have those skills you are worth A LOT of money and if you have those skills you know you are because you learned those skills somewhere. If OP gets this going i'm willing to help (for free) giving advice if wanted (I have lead and done 1000s of projects, direct or indirect, for big and small companies) and just talk about the problems in this market. I'm not looking for money or a % or a job; i'm just very interested in the subject. That's why I recognize the problems and I would like to brainstorm about the possibilities as I find the challenges here very interesting. So if you want to mail me, please do. |