[metalmangler]

I am bootstraping, and have used proton for years as my only email, but have my own email now, and am slowly backing out of proton. The horrible way that they extort by limiting and degrading a service is only part of the problem.They degraded email replies at one point, to a tiny "page" with less than one full line of text. There is more, but proton is not worth the effort to remember and detail all of it.

I will use google or any other service for building up an advertising presence. And keep the proton, until everything is moved. And then again, pragmatism might decide in favor of useing the proton service, but only as the core of my business is seperate,and will spread my add bucks around, so I feel safe. Currently have NO guggle anything, because of past denial of service, and will only use them for the advertising side as well.

[blackeyeblitzar]

> The horrible way that they extort by limiting and degrading a service is only part of the problem.They degraded email replies at one point, to a tiny "page" with less than one full line of text. There is more, but proton is not worth the effort to remember and detail all of it.

Are you saying they made it so that you cannot send replies with less than one full line of text? I don’t think I’ve seen or heard of Proton doing that.

[nemosaltat]

Same here. When you say your own email, do you mean Fastmail? I love Proton and they got me and my SO largely off of Google. Fastmail is just so good, I’m going to migrate everything there eventually.

[kfrane]

I migrated from gmail to proton then to fastmail and I can now really appreciate how much more polished gmail was. My biggest pain is fastmail's ios app, e.g. clicking on an email notification will in 50% of cases result in fastmail's app to open in an unresponsive state where I have to forcefully quit the app and start again. It's been like that for close to two years now.

[omnimus]

I think most business people dont care about clients at all because they use IMAP/SMTP/carddav/caldav.

Once you have more than one mailbox then its kinda the only way. So apple mail, thunderbird etc. And then you mostly get some quality provider mailbox.org, fastmail, infomaniak or whatever but its all the same.

[palata]

> When you say your own email, do you mean Fastmail?

Not sure what they mean, but at the very least I think you should have your own domain. So that you can migrate without changing the email address (and having to ask all your contacts to update to the new one).

[3np]

> When you say your own email, do you mean Fastmail?

I assume they mean they run their own server now.