[serjts]

The real, everpresent and probably future nail in the coffin of C++ is the lack of a standard apckage manager and build system. The rest is just what happened to be picked up by social/news as it is easier and flashier to talk about.

[matt3210]

Conan and cmake problem solved

[serjts]

Ah, we are from the same tribes! Let's go talk to the the bazel and to the vcpkg tribes. But what about the fact that cmake isn't a build system, also conan 2.0 was a bit rough the last I saw.. maybe thats why clion/intellij dropped support for it out of the box and now uses vcpkg?

[Conscat]

I've been contributing some C++ packages to xrepo, which personally imo is the best of all worlds. c:

[einpoklum]

There is a Bazel tribe? I've heard it mentioned a couple of time but I have yet to encounter a C++ project I need to build which supports Bazel but not CMake. In fact, just _any_ Bazel support seems to me quite rare. Am I living in a bubble?

As for vcpkg - yeah, that's popular, for sure.

[Conscat]

Daisy Hollman says she has "drunk the Bazel kool-aid" and is a big proponent of its usage outside Google.

[einpoklum]

Bazel is a project created by Google, and Hollman works for Google. So - perhaps the Bazel tribe is people working at Google? There _are_ quite a few of those....