[malermeister]

Did they invade Hong Kong? It's a very western viewpoint that invasion is the only way to affect change.

[ceejayoz]

Hong Kong was leased from China. No invasion necessary.

They've squashed the democracy movement there, though.

[malermeister]

I'm not saying they're not trying to expand their sphere of influence. I just think they're not quite as gung-ho about it as western powers. They work slower and less aggressively, invasions are a last resort.

[JumpCrisscross]

Now do Tibet.

[malermeister]

75 years ago? If that's the closest precedent you can find, that kinda speaks for itself, doesn't it?

[Teever]

Can you name a single country that China has brought democracy to?

[malermeister]

Now we're shifting topics. We're talking about invasions, not bringing democracy.

I also don't think that "bringing democracy" is a universal good, if you look at the US' exploits in the Middle East.