[jillesvangurp]

Would you buy wind power if somebody provided that close to where you live? The way the system currently works is that you see no benefit at all if wind towers are close to where you live. Because somebody on the complete opposite side of the country only has access to gas power and the national prices are set for the highest price needed anywhere in the country. You are effectively subsidizing those people. Not the other way around. Your rates are high because gas is expensive and has to be shipped in in LNG form these days. No matter where you live in the country.

[thrw42A8N]

Gas is expensive because stable demand has been replaced by spikes based on renewable availability. I don't have any opportunity to get any renewable power - it's cold and there's no space for grid scale wind or solar.

[fsh]

This doesn't make any sense. Germany has storage for more than a season's worth of natural gas. The price went up because Russia stopped selling cheap gas to western Europe after its attack on Ukraine.

[thrw42A8N]

Myself I'm not affected by this. It's used too much as a counter argument, it's not universally applicable - even in Germany. The price spikes were happening before the war too.

[rrr_oh_man]

> The price went up because Russia stopped selling cheap gas to western Europe after its attack on Ukraine.

Is that really an honest way to frame this?

[pfdietz]

Yes, it's entirely honest.