[dbish]

Don’t paper over everyone with the new Day 2 Amazon. There are still great things happening at Meta for example where the founder is still driving culture. They’re some of the biggest players in open source AI and you better believe Meta AI has very smart people

[drivebyhooting]

Meta culture is not exactly friendly. I can’t speak to meta ai. But much of the company has 8 layers deep of VP and directors.

[dbish]

I wouldn’t say it’s friendly, but that’s not really the point. The commenter was saying smart people didn’t work there which is really hard to say when talking about the AI groups. I would say you can get a lot done if you’re not in a few particularly slow moving heavily layered orgs. They’re also pushing hard to flatten as they should

[drivebyhooting]

How can you flatten without also removing a bunch of leaf nodes? Otherwise you’d have one M2 with 50 reports.

[dbish]

I mean, yeah, that’s the answer. More reports. More senior folks don’t need a million 1:1s and a bunch of micromanaging.

Plus if you’ve ever looked at the org chart at Meta before flattening started there were quite a few M2s/Directors/VPs with < 6 reports, that’s insane unless you’re spending a bunch of time on IC work.