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by no_wizard 573 days ago
Why do we pretend that these things don’t matter? Why should we?

Why in the norm to ignore these issues - there by perpetuating them because they face no consequences - rather than pointing them out?

Justine did write openly on the web about their prejudices and never even apologized let alone showed in anyway evolution away from fascist leaning and prejudiced politics

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I didn't know about Justine's politics and I'm glad I do now. She is definitely not someone I would want to be associated with, unless she clearly distanced herself from these - in my opinion - deeply problematic and disturbing views.

EDIT: That being said, I think it should still be possible to discuss her technical contributions in some form. It's basically the old question as to which extend you can separate the work from the author.

I think I am missing a lot of context in this thread - I have no idea what any of the ancestral comments are talking about :-(
Its in regards to the discussions taking place in this thread: https://lwn.net/Articles/998196/
I fail to see anything of substance here, seems to be some person with a chip on their shoulder. Apparently the word cosmopolitan is a derogatory dog whistle for Jewish person, but why would an antisemite name their own work after something they do not like?
Just to be clear I'm not talking about Justine here and I consider the project to be well within the normal meaning of "cosmopolitan", but dogwhistle names are absolutely a thing antisemites do.
I did the same for a different political issue once, I just thought it was funny
It preserves HN and LWN as useful forums for purely technical discussions with high signal/noise, basically. From https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html :

> Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.

The spirit of this and its practicality in every case isn’t the same thing at all.

I don’t think a supposedly meritocratic community would want to associate with racist or prejudiced ideas that by their very nature fly in the face of this

Please tell me how it matters.

What are you arguing here? Should no one use APE? Should people use APE but just feel bad every time they do? Should people use APE but never write about it for fear of aggrandizing the author?