[gtvwill]

Currently looking at moving overseas. Live in aus and the place is politically an authoritarian corprotocracy with unaffordable living even on a decent wage. Looking to get out.

We don't need much and are both fairly handy (in all forms of life) so we are considering a run down property in Europe. We could literally buy a dump,do it up and go off grid with solar and still come out ahead for 50% of the price for a avg crappy property in aus. It's absurd. I just want somewhere to live and grow some food. It's near impossible to do in aus without working like a slave and being massively in debt.

[dpeckett]

Yeh nah mate, I'd recommend moving to the middle of nowhere in Aus over a low cost region in the EU. You really want to be in a long term growth environment (even if you're starting off at the bottom) than some decaying, economically deprived region. There's no free lunch in the western world.

I'm an Aussie living in a relatively low cost region in the EU, I moved here for career and networking/ecosystem reasons. That aspect of the move have definitely paid off in multiples but there's no doubt that QoL is significantly lower here and the tax rates on income are double what you are used to (a lot goes to social programs that as an immigrant you have limited entitlement to).

[graemep]

> authoritarian corprotocracy with unaffordable living even on a decent wage.

Sounds like much of Europe.

People emigrate TO Australia for similar reasons!

Its probably a lot easier and lower risk to move to a different part of your own country. No visa required, you know the language and legal system.