[somecontext]

> Moreover, there's no good-faith way to call [Medicare] "welfare".

For some context, Wikipedia says:

> In the United States, depending on the context, the term "welfare" ... can also include social insurance programs such as unemployment insurance, Social Security, and Medicare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_spending#United_States

[tptacek]

No. Not in the context Rayiner meant it, where there's policy discretion about who gets it, the way you might apply work requirements to SNAP.

[somecontext]

I don't think "policy discretion to deny" is what the word "welfare" means.

But in any case, Medicare is literally denied to prisoners, which is an example of ... denying welfare benefits for antisocial behavior?

[tptacek]

The entire thread is about the discretion to deny services.